The Gypsy, Romany and Traveller community in Surrey

From Oxford’s Gipsy Hill and Windsor’s Tinkers Lane to Worthing’s Romany Road, the historical contribution of Britain’s Gypsy, Roma, Traveller community is hinted at in place names across the south-east of England. The community has been in Britain for at least 500 years, but their history is often difficult to find. Surrey’s travelling peoples have been living and working in the county since the sixteenth century and Surrey History Centre holds a range of archives, photographs, and published works which illustrate the fact and fiction surrounding this community over the centuries.

Gypsy, Romany, Traveller family history

Close-up of the baptism entry for Lizzy, daughter of Charlotte and Danil London, Travellers, St Anne's, Bagshot, 3 Oct 1841 (SHC ref BAG/1/1)

Close-up of the baptism entry for Lizzy, daughter of Charlotte and Danil London, Travellers, St Anne’s, Bagshot, 3 Oct 1841 (SHC ref BAG/1/1). Click on the image to see a larger copy.

Tracing travelling ancestors can be challenging but not impossible and we hold a variety of material to help you do this. Click here for Surrey History Centre’s guide to sources for tracing Gypsy, Romany and Traveller history in Surrey.

Front cover: <em>Their Day has Passed: Gypsies in Victorian and Edwardian Surrey</em>

Front cover: Their Day has Passed: Gypsies in Victorian and Edwardian Surrey

Find out more about the history of Surrey’s Gypsy community in Alan Wright’s ground-breaking book Their Day has Passed: Gypsies in Victorian and Edwardian Surrey. Alan’s research is based on a wealth of sources held at Surrey History Centre, many of which have never been used before in this area of research. The work features travelling families, encampments, and the community’s struggle with Surrey landowners in the era when travelling life was starting to come to an end.

Alan’s book has been reviewed on the Guildford Dragon website at http://www.guildford-dragon.com/2018/04/27/book-review-their-day-has-passed-gypsies-in-victorian-and-edwardian-surrey/.

See the Guildford Dragon website https://www.guildford-dragon.com for interviews with Surrey Gypsies Billy Brazil and Hilda Brazil, whose families have been living, working and travelling in the county for generations:
Hilda Brazil
Billy Brazil

Can you help?

Surrey History Centre is committed to collecting, preserving and making accessible the histories of all people in the county. Through education comes tolerance and developing our Gypsy, Roma Traveller collections helps raise awareness of discrimination and injustices of the past and present. We keen to hear from anyone who has material relating to Surrey’s travelling communities which can help us carry out further research in this area. Please contact Surrey History Centre at [email protected] or 01483 518737.

Tracing the history of the Gypsy, Romany and Traveller community in Surrey:

The ‘Loseley Manuscripts’

Margaret Finch, Queen of the Gypsies, at Norwood, 1742. SHC ref 4348/1/9/2

Margaret Finch, Queen of the Gypsies, at Norwood, 1742. (SHC ref 4348/1/9/2).

Surrey has a strong connection with Gypsy, Roma and Traveller communities, but it can be hard to locate references to them in the archives. Fortunately, the ‘Loseley Manuscripts’ held at the Surrey History Centre, can provide an insight into the treatment of these communities in Surrey some 500 years ago. Read more about early references to Gypsies in Surrey and the Loseley Manuscripts in Surrey History Centre’s Marvel.

Some Gypsy weddings in Surrey

Alan Wright, author of the ground-breaking book Their Day Has Passed: Gypsies in Victorian and Edwardian Surrey, which was researched predominantly at Surrey History Centre, explores some unusual Surrey Gypsy weddings and how they highlight the challenges of researching Gypsy ancestry.

The Traveller Project

Funded by the European Union and the South East Museum Library and Archive Council, this project was designed to encourage greater access to the region’s museums, libraries and archives for the region’s large Gypsy and Traveller population. The project was the British contribution to a 3 year pan-European effort to remove barriers in accessing cultural heritage. Click here to read more about this project and the final report.

Travellers Tales DVD

The hidden heritage of Surrey’s largest ethnic minority is uncovered in this film celebrating the history and culture of Surrey’s Gypsy and Traveller community.

Copies of the project video are now available to view through YouTube. See the links below:

Part 1

Part 2

Fairgrounds in Surrey

See how fairgrounds coped during the Second World War.

Explore Philip Bradley’s unique fairground archive.

Traveller Education in Surrey

Click here to find out about Surrey’s first school for Gypsies at Hurtwood.

Roma Routes

An EU funded project made up of a partnership of heritage organisations and Roma representatives from Germany, Greece, Slovenia, Romania and the UK (Surrey Heritage). The project aimed to encourage intercultural dialogue between Roma and non Roma to promote European Roma cultural heritage. Click here to read more about the Roma Routes project. For more information contact Surrey Heritage, at Surrey History Centre.

Online articles

Read an article on the Gypsy Holocaust by GRT experts Mike Doherty and Robert Dawson in ‘Travellers’ Times’ magazine online at http://travellerstimes.org.uk/News/The-Gypsy-Holocaust.aspx

Read an online feature on Surrey’s Gypsy history on the Get Surrey news website for GRT History Month 2020.

For current Gypsy Traveller community information see the Surrey Gypsy Traveller Communities Forum website http://www.sgtcf.uk/

For an article in Who Do You Think You Are Magazine about tracing Gypsy ancestry see https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/am-i-descended-from-gypsies/

Anyone interested in Gypsy DNA projects might like to read the Family Tree Gypsy DNA Project website https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/celtic-traveller/about/background

102 thoughts on “The Gypsy, Romany and Traveller community in Surrey”

  1. STUART BAMPTON says:

    PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME ANYTHING OF A SAMUEL SMITH BORN 1845 CHOHAM FATHER PERIN SMITH. GYPSY FAMILY.SAMUEL MAY ANCESTOR.

    1. TONY says:

      My name is Shamus Gray looking to find my family my grandfather’s name is brazee and John Boy Franky big John and me grandmother Maurine Bradford we’ve got cousins there second name is Carters Welsh’s Denton if you have any of these second names could you get in touch most of my ancestors worked the fairground

      1. James Pocknee says:

        Hi Shamus are you of Irish descent by any chance?

      2. henry Carter says:

        Hi, I’m henry Carter from worpelsdon guildford. My grandfather henry Carter came from longmoor to guildford. My son also Henry carter is the last in the line to carry the name.
        Henry

      3. john dyckhoff says:

        My grandfather was Johny gray. His father was Bob gray Earl of Essex. They was fairground people

      4. Angela Marie Brazee says:

        My last name is Brazee. I live in the U.S. We have been trying to figure out exactly where the family is from for a long,long, time. My ancestors were in the general eastern Canada and New York New England area. My g.g. grandfather was named Uncle Tuney or Tuenis. He was a basket maker by trade. I know this is of absolutely no help to you at all, but I have never seen Brazee except in my family and got excited. I hope your search for information goes well.

    2. Ben says:

      Hi Stuart I am Ali’s research hing Samuel smith he was my great great grandfather , I have only just come across this post. Have you any information on him? Thanks Ben

      1. stuartbampton says:

        Ben, as you may know sam/ Samuel Smith was fairly common, we do know he was blind in r eye, this fact recorded when he was in his mid 20s…We also new this from stories passed down from my grt gran who married into Wells who closely connected toHughes’then in Dorset mainly. Sam had 4 children from his (wife) … Story from people who mention he may have father a daughter and… Does Elizabeth fit into your Smith with willam(tenant) Smith.. You Don’t give Anything away from what you said!!

      2. Hello, maybe you could call my mobile on 07899633504… Its bit long time since you responded to, Smith interests..
        Thank you.. Best wishes, Stuart.

  2. Leanne Pritchard says:

    Hello, I am looking for any information about Joseph Rolfe, who was a convict transported on the Henry Tanner in 1834, from Surrey Gaol. Apparently he was a hawker, and his name is on a few Gypsy genealogy pages, but I haven’t been able to find out anything more about him. Any information would be greatly appreciated! I think he is my G G G grandfather.

  3. Leanne Pritchard says:

    Hello again, I have found out some more information about the Joseph Rolfe I’m looking for: he was born 27 Nov 1804, and baptised 30 Dec 1804 at All Saints, Wandsworth, to parents Richard and Ann. I also found a George Rolfe born 24 Dec 1807, baptised 31 Jan 1808; and a William James Rolfe born 16 Nov 1802, baptised 29 Dec 1802, both at All Saints with same parents’ names. Joseph Rolfe, my GGG grandfather, was convicted of housebreaking 18 Dec 1833 & sentenced to death, commuted to a life sentence & was then transported, a Surrey Gaol delivery. I would love to know more about his family, but have been unable to find any birth records or parents’ marriage records, only these baptism listings from All Saints. I would great appreciate any help or advice at all. Thank you so much!

  4. Nelson crittenden says:

    Hell if any ones interested I am a full blooded gypsy from Surrey any one interested in my story s ect I an available I was brn in 1940 in a gypsy horse drawn caravan lived in Kent Sussex Surrey buckinghamshire travelled all over this country Always willing to help other if I can my tel no is 07776058149 god luc god bless I now live in Walton on thames

    1. Robyn says:

      Hello I live on Melbourne Australia and my grandfather’s father was a Romani gypsy surnames back from Barrow. They came from Surrey and Gravesend in Kent. My father has told me I am of true gypsy heritage. I wish to find out so much more and my ancestors. I embrace this ancesttory

      1. Robyn says:

        My sister is now married to. Alan Crittenden

    2. James Hogg says:

      Hi Nelson,

      I have a William Crittenden in my family, born in Kent (potentially my G.G.G Grandfather). He had a child with a lady bearing the surname Maynard from Horsmonden. My family are Maynards, Smiths, Morris’, Neals, Gibbs and Coopers. Mainly from Horsmonden (Kent), Mitcham (Surrey) and Norfolk. I currently live in Surrey, however have no connection with this part of my family now! It would be good to talk. Do you have an email address I can contact you on?

      Kind Regards
      James

      1. Kim says:

        Hi we have some surnames that match and are trying to trace our roots x

      2. Kim gibbs says:

        James Hogg is it possible to chat as we have many similar surnames

    3. Veronica says:

      Hi Nelson

      I’m very much interested in the Jones, Roberts, Ayres and Wilson lines – do you have any info re these families
      Veronica

      1. Sheila Sewell says:

        Hi Veronica, My family ancestors were Roberts, Fagence, Hoadley and Bonwick. Jones were listed in a gypsy tent with some of my ancestors in 1891.It is said that families traveling together usually camped together. Sheila Fagence-Sewell

        1. Mark says:

          Yes I am a Hoadley

          1. Bev Robinson says:

            May you please tell me all about the hoadleys as they are my family a

          2. Adam Haase says:

            Hi Mark.

            Who’s the Hoadley you descend from?

            Any of the Sampson’s (1844-1906 or 1866/5-1942) or Sam Sr’s dad James and James’ wife Sarah Furminger who were born born about 1800?

            1866/5-1942 was my 3x-Great-grandfather (his daughter Alice, born 1892-1960) was my 2xGreat-grandmother.

        2. stanthevan says:

          Sampson Hoadley Junr, son of Sampson Hoadley and Matilda Parker, was born in Sep 1865 in Woking, Surrey, died on 17 May 1942 in Surrey. aged 76, and was buried on 21 May 1942 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England.

          Noted events in his life were:

          • Census UK 1881: was age 16 and the son of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He had a residence in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1891 in Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England.
          • Census UK 1891: was age 24 and the head of the household, on 5 Apr 1891, in Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England, Hounslow.
          • He was baptised on 21 Sep 1873 in East Peckham, Holy Trinity, Kent, England.
          • Census UK 1881: was age 16 and the son of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He had a residence in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1889 in Yalding, St Margaret, Kent, England.

          Andrew married Margaret Matthews [MRIN: 18] on 16 Sep 1889 in Yalding, St Margaret, Kent, England.

          Children from this marriage were:

          i. Amy Hoadley was born on 21 Feb 1890 in Woking, Surrey, England, died on 8 Jan 1980 in Horsell, Woking, Surrey aged 89, and was buried in 1980 in Horsell Church, Woking.
          ii. Alice Hoadley was born about 1892 in Bisley, Surrey, England and was buried on 27 Oct 1960 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          iii. Caroline Hoadley was born in 1893 in Tunbridge and died on 1 Oct 1992 in Surrey N.W. aged 99. Another name for Caroline was Carrie Hoadley.
          iv. Johnie Hoadley was born in 1894 in Unknown. The cause of his death was Y.
          1 v. Bethonie Hoadley
          vi. Horace Hoadley was born in 1897 in Unknown and died in Dec 1901 in Surrey, United Kingdom aged 4.
          vii. Matilda Hoadley was born on 6 Dec 1898 in Woking, Surrey, England and died about Nov 1978 in Surrey North Western, Surrey, England aged about 79. Other names for Matilda were Tilley Hoadley and Tilley Hoadley.
          viii. Margaret Hoadley was born in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, died about May 1932 in Chertsey, Surrey, England aged about 31, and was buried on 17 Jun 1932 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          ix. Job Hoadley was born on 4 Feb 1903 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England and died about Nov 1905 in Guildford, Surrey, England aged about 2.
          x. Elizabeth Betsie Hoadley was born on 11 Mar 1905 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England.
          xi. William Hoadley was born in 1908 in Guildford, Surrey, England and died in 1982 in Surrey North Western, Surrey, England aged 74.
          xii. Louise B M Hoadley was born in Dec 1910 in Wandsworth. The cause of her death was Y.
          xiii. Britannia Hoadley was born on 28 Dec 1911 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England and died on 1 Dec 1998 in woking surrey england aged 86. Other names for Britannia were Aunt Biddie Hoadley and Aunt Biddie Hoadley.

          3. Margaret Matthews, daughter of Walter Matthews and Fanlow unknown, was born in Jun 1871 in Epsom, Surrey, England, died on 17 Jun 1930 in Woking, Surrey, England aged 59, and was buried on 20 Jun 1930 in Horsell, St Mary, Surrey, England.

          Noted events in her life were:

          • She resided at Age: 48Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife on 2 Apr 1911 in Horsell, Surrey, England.
          • Census UK 1891: was age 23 and the wife of the head of the household, on 5 Apr 1891, in Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England, Hounslow.

          Margaret married Andrew Hoadley Junr [MRIN: 18] on 16 Sep 1889 in Yalding, St Margaret, Kent, England.

          Margaret next married someone about Aug 1889 in Maidstone, Kent, England.

          Third Generation (Grandparents)

          4. Sampson Hoadley was born about 1845 in Leicestershire., was christened on 26 Dec 1853 in Leytonstone, and died between Oct 1906 and Dec 1906 in (Kingston 2A-252).Surrey.

          Noted events in his life were:

          • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Hawker in 1881 in Hawker.
          • He resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Head in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
          • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1881 in Hawker.
          • He resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Head in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.

          Sampson married Matilda Parker [MRIN: 71] on 2 Feb 1863 in Barking, Essex, United Kingdom.

          Children from this marriage were:

          2 i. Andrew Hoadley Junr
          ii. Horace Hoadley was born on 3 Sep 1875 in Tunbridge, Kent. and died J/A/S 1955 in Surrey aged 80.
          iii. Matilda Hoadley was born on 5 Nov 1882 in Woking Surrey and died in Mar 1976 in Surrey Northern, Surrey, England aged 93.
          iv. Henry Hoadley was born on 10 Jan 1883 in Esher, Surrey, England, died on 10 Nov 1940 in The Morning Star Pub, Swanscombe aged 57, and was buried on 16 Nov 1940 in Swanscombe, Kent, England.
          v. Amy Hoadley was born in 1886 in Epsom, Surrey and died on 26 Sep 1962 in SHEPPERTON Middlesex England aged 76.
          vi. Job Hoadley The cause of his death was Y.

          5. Matilda Parker, daughter of Mark Parker and Sarah Wilson, was born on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon, England, United Kingdom and died on 23 Oct 1919 in Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England aged 74. The cause of her death was Y. Other names for Matilda were Matilda Hoadley and Matilda Hoadley.

          Noted events in her life were:

          • She was baptised on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon Surrey.
          • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the wife of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • She resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Wife in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
          • She was baptised on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon Surrey.
          • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the wife of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • She resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Wife in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.

          Matilda married Sampson Hoadley [MRIN: 71] on 2 Feb 1863 in Barking, Essex, United Kingdom.

          6. Walter Matthews was born in 1835 in Battle, Sussex, England and died about Feb 1894 in Guildford, Surrey, England aged about 59.

          Noted events in his life were:

          • Census UK 1871: was age 36 and the head of the household, on 2 Apr 1871, in Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He had a residence in 1871 in Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Licensed Hawker.

          Walter married Fanlow unknown [MRIN: 823].

          Children from this marriage were:

          i. Elizabeth Matthews was born on 13 Sep 1856 in Ascot Berks, died in 1943 in Surrey aged 87, and was buried on 9 Mar 1943 in Reigate, St Mary, Surrey, England. Another name for Elizabeth was Elizabeth Parker.
          ii. Rueben Matthews was born about 1857 in Ascot, Berkshire, England and died in 1922 in Guildford Surrey aged about 65.
          iii. Caroline Matthews was born in 1860 in Bermashwald, Sussex, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          iv. Job Matthews was born in 1863 in Epsom, Surrey.
          v. Jane Matthews was born in 1865 in Frimley, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          vi. Edward Matthews was born about 1868 in Redhill, Surrey, England. The cause of his death was Y.
          3 vii. Margaret Matthews
          viii. Amy Matthews was born in Jan 1876 in Worcester Park, England, United Kingdom and died in Jun 1950 in Surrey South Western, Surrey, England aged 74. Another name for Amy was Amy Hoadley.
          ix. Joseph Matthews was born on 9 Sep 1878 in Yaulen. The cause of his death was Y.
          x. Jane Buteridge was born on 15 Dec 1882 in DISS Norfolk England, died on 1 May 1956 in 21, Sun Road SWANSCOMBE Kent England aged 73, and was buried on 5 May 1956 in Swanscombe, Kent, England.
          xi. Frederick Matthews was born in 1887 in Woking, Surrey. The cause of his death was Y.

          7. Fanlow unknown was born about 1836 in Kingston, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y. Another name for Fanlow was Fanlow* Matthews.

          Noted events in her life were:

          • Census UK 1871: was age 35 and the wife of the head of the household, on 2 Apr 1871, in Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • She had a residence in 1871 in Epsom, Surrey, England.

          Fanlow married Walter Matthews [MRIN: 823].

          Fourth Generation (Great-Grandparents)

          10. Mark Parker, son of Mark Parker and Elizabeth Parker, was born before 26 Sep 1819 in Ash, Surrey, England, died in Jan 1866 in Epsom, England, United Kingdom, and was buried on 9 Jan 1866 in Epsom, St Martin, Surrey, England.

          Noted events in his life were:

          • He was baptised on 26 Sep 1819 in Ash, St Peter, Surrey, England.
          • He worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1849 in Ash, St Peter, Surrey, England.

          Mark married Sarah Wilson [MRIN: 53] on 28 Apr 1849 in Ash, St Peter, Surrey, England.

          Children from this marriage were:

          i. Amy Parker was born on 17 Nov 1839 in Worplesdon, Surrey, England and was buried on 28 Oct 1841 in Cobham, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          ii. Mark Parker was born in 1841 in Ashford, Middlesex, England and died in Mar 1922 in Epsom, Surrey, England aged 81.
          5 iii. Matilda Parker
          iv. John Parker was born in 1849 in Egham, Surrey, England. The cause of his death was Y.
          v. Francis Parker was born in 1851 in Coldbrook, Middlesex, England. The cause of his death was Y.
          vi. James Parker was born in 1856 in Ascot, Berkshire, England. The cause of his death was Y.
          vii. Frederick Parker was born in 1857 in Colnbrook Middlx, was christened on 11 Jul 1852 in Colnbrook, Middlesex, England, died about Nov 1920 in Chertsey, Surrey, England aged about 63, and was buried on 9 Dec 1920 in Bagshot, St Anne, Surrey, England.
          viii. Job Parker was born in 1858 in Wimbledon, Surrey, England, died in 1881 in Epsom Workhouse, Surrey, England aged 23, and was buried on 17 May 1881 in Epsom, St Martin, Surrey, England.
          ix. Alice Parker was born on 27 Jul 1861 in Epsom, St Martin, Surrey, England and died about May 1887 in Epsom, Surrey, England aged about 25. The cause of her death was Y.
          x. Andrew Parker was born about 1866 in Ashtead, Surrey, England, died in Apr 1872 in Epsom, Surrey, England aged about 6, and was buried on 12 Apr 1872 in Ewell, St Mary, Surrey, England. The cause of his death was Age at Death: 6.

          11. Sarah Wilson, daughter of Sarah Harris, was born in 1822 in Frensham St Mary the Virgin, Surrey, England, was christened on 4 Feb 1822 in Frensham, Surrey, died on 28 Nov 1882 in Frimley, Surrey, England aged 60, and was buried on 2 Dec 1882 in Frimley, St Peter, Surrey, England.

          Noted events in her life were:

          • She resided at Age: 49Relation: Head in 1871 in Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • She was baptised on 4 Feb 1822 in Frensham, St Mary, Surrey, England.
          • Census UK 1871: was age 49 and the head of the household, on 2 Apr 1871, in Epsom, Surrey, England.
          • She worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1849 in Ash, St Peter, Surrey, England.
          • She was baptised on 4 Feb 1822 in Frensham, St Mary, Surrey, England.

          Sarah married Mark Parker [MRIN: 53] on 28 Apr 1849 in Ash, St Peter, Surrey, England.

          Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandparents)

          20. Mark Parker was born in 1797 in Buckland, Surrey, England. The cause of his death was Y.

          Noted events in his life were:

          • He worked as a Traveller Chimney Sweeper on 28 Apr 1849 in Ash, Surrey.

          Mark married Elizabeth Parker [MRIN: 54].

          Children from this marriage were:

          i. Diana Grainger was born in 1807 in Condover, Hampshire and was buried on 27 Feb 1878 in Frimley, St Peter, Surrey, England. The cause of her death was Y.
          10 ii. Mark Parker

          21. Elizabeth Parker was born about 1775 in Buckland, Surrey, died in 1851 in Frimley, Surrey, England aged about 76, and was buried on 28 Dec 1851 in Frimley, Surrey, England.

          Elizabeth married Mark Parker [MRIN: 54].

          23. Sarah Harris . The cause of her death was Y.

          Sarah married John Wilson [MRIN: 55], son of Mary, on 26 Nov 1821 in East Horsley, Surrey, England.

          The child from this marriage was:

          11 i. Sarah Wilson

          Sarah next married someone on 26 Nov 1821 in East Horsley, Surrey, England.

          Her child was:

          11 i. Sarah Wilson

      2. Marusia Bucknall says:

        Hi Everyone
        There is talk of Rom ancestry in my son’s paternal line. DNA has identified names noted above. My son’s paternal line starts with 2 individuals with the same name Thomas Denham Jones. The elder may have had links with Isle of Wight. Anyone able to help???
        Thanking all in advance

    4. Ricky Taylor says:

      My ame is Ricky Taylor son of John Taylor from Sunbury on Thames I think you and my Dad were mates years ago

    5. Lauren Wall says:

      I think my father Nathan Wall knows you we used to live on field common. My nan’s name’s maiden name is June Brazil and I’m trying to gather some information for her. Any information you have I would be grateful for, thank you

      1. charles best says:

        my names Charles best and was born in Tunbridge wells Kent my dad sister aunt may had a son who is my cousin and she my aunt had a son by a man called Brazil although they parted when he was just kid and she my aunt May got married again my grannie was a Smith but married chap called Charles Wenham who I was named after. my uncle her son was my mum brother, my mum was my grannie daughter and Amy Fuller was her daughter as well and had a son called Harry Fuller he was married to his wife called Nicola they where both killed in 1993 I have a paper about it the real story is it was an insurance man son who needed money and he killed harry and his wife Harry was my cousin his mum and my mum where sisters and I also had an uncle called Charlie Wenham who lived in Farnham I have a Surry & Hants News paper dated November 24 th 1981 saying Charlie Wenham the 84 year old former horse dealer and rag and bone man,.with his pony and cart was a familiar part of the Farnham scene for 60 years died on Wednesday there is a photo in the paper of my uncle with a smile on his face .I am also related the Eastwood and Lees and other and used to got to Horsmonden horse fair and fruit picking and hop picking my uncle Hennry and my aunt Amy the Fullers who lived near the blue boys pembury are also related to me there so much more I can tell you about the gypsy life which I believe to be a good way to be brought up but hope this now explain a bit about my life on the road and living in house

        1. Anna Holden says:

          Mr Best. Good afternoon. I hope you don’t mind me asking for any information you may know of. I am trying to find any living relatives. I am one quarter Romany, my mother being one half. My grandmother a Romany woman was named Pasey Chapman born in Reading, Berkshire 1916. Pasey’s mother Henrietta Camble married Albert Chapman who died 1953. Pasey married a non romany Hubert Charles Nugent who was a lorry driver and made deliveries to the Cross Keys site in Maidenhead and met his wife to be there. Pasey moved from her site in Cross Keys, Maidenhead to a brick home in Reading on marrying. Pasey died at 38 years in 1953. Her sister Amy Chapman married Charles Fitzgerald in 1934 and had 3 children, Patsy, Margaret and Charlie Fitzgerald. Charlie Fitzgerald is the last point of contact for me, last heard of late 1960’s on a site in Berkshire area maybe Windsor. His mother Amy Chapman then Fitzgerald possibly later a Johnson was last known of living in Paddington area. Perhaps you or someone you know recalls any of these names. Thank you.

          1. Dear Anna Holden, I can relate to your quest regarding Chapman, Fitzgerald, while i remember my mobile is 07899633504….charlie Fitz is my cousin, his gran was Brittania (Smith) were closely connected to Ayres, Barney’s in hants, Charlie married Mary Stanley, 5 sons, all fighters… Get in touch Anna,, me Stuart Bampton…

  5. Ann says:

    Hi, my great great great grandad William Lamb was possibly of romany/gypsy descent and appears in an 1881 hawker census on a gypsy site. I have yet to find some type of proof which I desperately want to do. He resided in Locks Fields, Newington, Surrey which I know alot of gypsies resided there. I also have family names of Bleach and Bowers in my family tree who are possibly romany/gypsy if anyone has these names in their family at all?

    Any information would be appreciated.

    Ann

    1. Amie Webb says:

      Hello Ann,

      I am a descendent of Giles Bowers, if you want to give me your email address I can send you information I have.

      1. Eddie Kidby says:

        Hi Amie
        I do not have a Giles Bowers in my tree as far as I know, but I do have a large Bowers branch which includes Elijah and Samson Bowers.
        If your information coincides anywhere, I’d be pleased to be able to see it.
        Many thanks.

    2. Hi Ann
      Just found this “chat”. I have Lamb relatives. Have you come across a Horace Willett who married an Ellen Lamb?

    3. Mike harmer says:

      Ann,hi! I have lambs in my family down here in Norfolk,my mother was a daughter of old butty lamb,let me know who you are looking for and I will try to help.

  6. maria says:

    Hi i am looking for a william stevens or stephens born 1930ish worked for bottoms fair around 1951 and lived in penge around the same time with he’s sister . any info would be helpful thankyou.

  7. Mark Osborne says:

    Hello, i am trying to trace any infomation concerning my great grandparants Tommy and Sarah Lee who lived in Owlsmoor near Camberley in Surrey or maybe Surrey. many thanks.

    1. Shirley Chesterman says:

      Hi Mark
      I’m Shirley Sheens daughter who was Emma Lees daughter your granny Darkies sister. HOw can I help you ?

      1. Jackie Blackman says:

        Hi Shirley,
        Emma Lee, who married Tommy Boswell and was mother to, amongst others, Darkis, was the sister of my 4x great grandmother Tieni/Dinah Lee, who married John Gregory. It would be lovely to hear from you.
        Best wishes

        Jackie
        [email protected]

  8. Jackie Blackman says:

    Hi my name is Jackie Blackman (nee Cooper). I have a spread sheet with several thousand references references to Gypsies, which I have collected over the years from research in the county records offices. The vast majority are of baptisms. These records are primarily from Surrey, Berkshire and Hampshire. I am happy to do look ups for you, although i am only usually able to do this at the weekends. Several years ago I had a website called Passing Through, which had all this information on it, so if you have previously looked at that site, I will not have anything else to tell you.

    My Dad’s paternal family were Romany Gypsies, although his dad was the last generation in our family to travel. My great grandparents settled in Claygate in Surrey and my great great grandparents settled in West Molesey, also in Surrey.

    My family names are Cooper (furthest back is to Samuel Cooper who was born abt 1794 in Eltham Kent and died in Norwood Surrey in 1856) I am particulary interested in finding Vanslow Cooper baptised in Ewell in 1825. This is NOT the Vanslow Cooper who was the son of Mathias/Matty Cooper.

    Gregory – descended from John Gregory born abt. 1812 and died 1897 – lived/travelled in Hampshire abs Berkshire. Died in Yateley. He was married to Dinah/Tieni Lee, daughter of Charles Lee.

    Lee – descended from James and Clevansi Lee – no further information about these two!

    Smith – Vanslow Cooper (see above) married Urania Smith January 1849 at St Paul’s Hammersmith. daughter of Joseph and Jane. She was baptised at Acton in 1826. She had a brother Major Smith, baptised in Hendon in1825 and a brother Henry born abt. 1828 who married Sarah Buckland January 1949 at, also at St Paul’s in Hammersmith. Other than this, I have no information about them.

    Not in my direct line, I have links with Ayres (many from Addlestone Surrey), Scott, Mills, Williams.

    My 3x great grandmother, Ellen Lee was born abt 1843 in Croydon. I strongly suspect she was the daughter of Jonathan /John Smith and Martha (aka Pat) Lee. Martha/Pat was the sister of Dinah/Tieni Lee, mother of Ellen’s husband Alfred Gregory. However, I have no hard evidence. On her marriage certificate Ellen’s father was John Smith and his occupation was Gypsy. The name is just too common! If anyone can help I would be really pleased to hear from you.

    Email: [email protected]

    1. ESP Admin says:

      Thanks Jackie, we do remember the Passing Through website, it’s a real shame it’s no longer running but your offer to do look-ups for enquirers will be really useful, thank you. Surrey Heritage are in the process of developing a number of Surrey Gypsy, Romany, Traveller databases including baptisms, census returns, encampments etc but they are a way off being finalised yet. They will be available to freely use online on this website and hopefully help with some of the challenges that this area of family history can present.

    2. Cassie Hayes says:

      Hi Jackie,
      I know we share the same family connections through the AYRES/GREGORY/LEE/HARRIS families.
      I have been on the familysearch site and have found lots of family back to 1600’s, not sure if you already have this is info, so I apologise if I’m repeating knowledge.
      I have found the following….
      Ellen Lee, b abt 1843, m to Alfred GREGORY, b abt 1846,
      Children……Emily b abt 1863,Hartley Whitney, Hampshire
      Soloman, b abt 1866,Hartltey Whitney, Hampshire
      Walter, b abt 1871,Hartley Whitney, Hampshire
      Nelson, b abt 1879 Hartley Whitney, Hampshire
      This is all I’ve found so far, hope it’s helpful
      Cassie

    3. Tracy Jayne Mercer says:

      Hi
      Do you have any info on the ayres family from the surrey area and hampshire.
      Thankyou

  9. Peter Doyle says:

    My mum lived in the warm of derby coach house in woodmanstern lane in wallington does anyone have any pictures of the house yours hopefully Mr p m doyle her maiden name was barnes

  10. Cassie Hayes says:

    Hi everyone,
    I am descended from the Ayres family..Naylor Ayres to be exact, I have found some info on him, he was born in wintney Hartley Hampshire,c 1902; parents Naylor and Urania Ayres, I would love to know more.
    However my mystery is my grandmother, b1904, I have a couple of first names for her, Roseanne may Rose / May Rose, but can’t find either of these with the correct parents. John and caroline.
    May rose was the name on her marriage cert and my mother’s birth certificate, and also on the workhouse entries that I found, but I only knew her as Bluebell, and as far as I am aware she was born and lived in Surrey all her life.
    Thanks in advance for any help
    Cassie

    1. Paul ayres says:

      Hi all Ayres followers I’m connected to the Addlestone/Chertsey families which originated from Hampshire I believe my grandfather was Henry Ayres and my great grandfather all so was Henry Ayres if you check out Athaliah on gypsy genealogy I have seen many of the names which you have spoke about

      1. Cassie says:

        Hi Paul
        It appears we are both connected to the Addlestone ayres family.
        My grandparents are Naylor Ayres and Rosanna may rose, my aunt’s and uncle are James,Dolly,Joyce,Elsie, Dinah, and my mother Lilian,
        I have found some info but not complete, maybe we could trade information.
        Would love to hear more about the Addlestone lot
        Look forward to your reply
        Cassie

        1. Paul Ayres says:

          Hi Cassie Is your grandfathers name Cornelius (naylor )for short if so did he have a brother called Henry born around 1882 .henry would be my great grand father he had a son called Henry Ayres born 1901 who is my grandfather I don’t know too much about my dads family as they were born so long ago and my grandad had my dad late in life many thanks Paul

          1. James Pocknee says:

            Hi Paul,

            I went to school with some Ayres people in Yateley. Rhys Ayres was in my year and his sister Abbey was in my brother Sean’s year. I research Irish heritage and have discovered Yateley has lots of Irish.

        2. Paul aures says:

          Sound good Cassie love to know more about our family connections have a nice Christmas

      2. Hayley Mitchell says:

        Hi All,
        I’m interested in the Ayres and Gardner families. I’m trying to track my mother in law’s great grandmother Mary Ann Ayres/Gardner born abt. 1860 and her family. Mary Ann Gardner married Andrew Lowder 25th July 1885 in Dartford, Kent they had a son Walter Louder born 5th March 1904 at 36 Dryden Road, Croydon, Surrey, he is my mother in law’s grandfather, on his birth certificate it has father: Andrew Louder, mother: Mary Ann Louder formally Ayres, rank or profession of father: Hawker. On Andrew and Mary Ann’s marriage banns it has her father William Henry Gardner. Any information on Mary Ann Ayres/Gardner or her family would be much appreciated.
        Kind Regards,
        Hayley

        1. Rob Peters says:

          My grandfather was James Ayres from Kent.I believe his mother’s name was Polly (Pol) do you have any info

        2. James Pocknee says:

          Hi, I know a Ben and a Luke Gardner.

      3. deborah ayres says:

        Hi Paul i have i have been looking for a Delialah Gregory who was the mother of a Keziah Gregory , and it turned out she was Athaliah Ayres , that married Neptune Ayres , she had Keziah before she married Neptune so Keziah took her maiden name , Athahiah had her name spelt Thahiah as well , it took me so long to realize , Than i mentioned it to Kerry Hawkins who is on Ancestry and a member of Romany Routes and he confirmed Delialah was Athaliah , My Husband is an Ayres and my Nan was a Harris , Keziah married a George Harris died young in Addlestone , i keep linking myself to people on my Husbands line, Kerry Hawkins favorite line is Ayres family , Join Romany Routes or go on Ancestry, I live near Hartley Witney and a lot of them came from Hazeley Heath , and travelled back and forth to Chertsy/Addlestone ,

        1. Paul Ayres says:

          Hi Deborah my great grandfather was Henry Ayres he married Louisa Harris in Addlestone so don’t know if Louisa was related to your Harris line

          1. Debbie Ayres says:

            Hi Paul i have just seen this , so sorry for late reply , i have a couple of Henry Ayres on my tree but none married a Louisa to my knowledge , i do have a Louisa who was Harris through marriage , but could well be somewhere , i find it so hard as Ayres and Harris were so common , and always marrying into the familiy one way or another , my lot seemed to go back and forth to Addlestone from Hazeley Heath

          2. Cassie Hayes says:

            Hi Paul, sorry for the delay in replying, we do share the same family, my g.pa was Naylor, son of Naylor, gson of neptune. Henry was my gpa’s uncle, married to Louisa, and died in WW1. I’m not at home yet, but when I am will send you all I have.
            If you toys in Gypsies in WW1 there is a load on him. He is commemorated on the Basra Memorial, as well as Addlestone memorial. Also Louisa is mentioned in the Chertsey workhouse.
            I also have a lot of details on our connection to the LEE family that I can share with you. And a lovely lady sent me a couple of photos of Emily Harris, who is my g.gma.
            Hope this is helpful. Cassie

      4. Tracy Jayne Mercer says:

        Hi neptune (nipton)Ayres was my grt grt grandfather. He was a bare knuckle boxer. If anyone has any info i would be very grateful.

        1. deborah ayres says:

          Hi Tracey i have 2 Neptunes on my Trees one born 1851 who Married Athaliah Gregory or one with knickname Nipton my husbands great granddads brother 1889-1977 from Hazeley Heath , do you know the year he was born

  11. Phill Blondell says:

    Hi I’m interested in any info on my family ties,They had caravans over Halsall common called the black patch and their surnames were Lewis Carey Horace and Gregorys

    1. Cassie says:

      Hi Phil,
      I am also related to the Gregory’s by my great grandmother Urania Gregory, married to Naylor Ayres, still looking for more info.
      Do we share this lady.
      Look forward to your reply.
      Cassie

      1. deborah ayres says:

        I have a Urania Gregory on my tree born Yateley 8th nov 1881 parents Eli Harris and Emily Gregory , Married a Naylor Ayres, so she would of been my husbands Nans sister and Naylor would of been his granddads brother , i might even have a photo of some of these

    2. Linda McAllister says:

      Hello Jackie, my name is Linda and I’m the granddaughter of Caroline and Benjamin Johnson of the Black patch in Horsell Surrey, I’m also related I believe to the Doe,s of Bisley, Carrie Doe was my Grandfather’s sister, I’m sure we were also related to the Lee,s and the Gregory’s, on my Grandmother,s side it was the Carey’s, Jackie what I’m looking for is any information you may have for a Henry Willet and his family who lived in Horsell Surrey in the 50/60’s I have information that he was my farther(long story) all my family are hurried in St Mary’s Church in Horsell and I have seen the grave of Henry Willet, I just want to know more about him and his family as iv only ever been told by a relative that I was related to that family, anything you can find out would be a blessing for me.

      1. O.G says:

        Hi Linda,

        Not sure if it’s the same one but had a great uncle named Henry Willett who was a brother in law to a John Carey. Definite traveller background somewhere in the family but not sure exactly where. Spent his final years living in Knaphill if this in anyway rings true?

    3. Linda McAllister says:

      Hi Phill, I’m a granddaughter of Coroline Carey and Benjamin Johnson originally from the Black patch in Horsell, I’m pretty sure that we were also related to the Gregory’s as well as the Doe’s of Bisley, too many to mention, if you know any of these names and want any information I will try to provide it for you, I’m now 67 and as a kid growing up never really took much notice of uncles and aunts,only my mum’s siblings, my mother was Margy Johnson the eldest of 10 children, she was born under a barrel wagon on the Black patch in 1925, she died of cancer in 1972. If I can help you with anything please contact me.

    4. Linda McAllister says:

      Hello Phill, my mother was born on the black patch in Horsell and all my relative’s on my mother’s side are burried in St Mary’s Church Horsell, my maternal Grandmother was Caroline Carey, My Grandfather was Bengamin Johnson from Westfield near Knaphill! I know that my family are related somehow to the Gregory’s and the Doe’s, who were from Bisley! My Mother was born under a barrel wagon at the Black patch in 1925, she later died at the age of 47 due to having Caner! she had 10 children of her own, and was the eldest child of Carry and Bengamin Johnson, they also had 10 children, I still have two living Aunt’s from my mother’s side. Please contact me through Phill Cooper he has my email address, I’m sure we could be of help to each other, regards Linda.

  12. Hello Friends , can anyone rellate to brittania smith/ayres born 1866 to sam and ellen smith/ayres. ellen died young shortly after a serious accident with a train, her leg/s were crushed. she left small children who were seperated but fortunately for the girls they were almost together for some time with their g,parents. it seems much more is known of brittania than her sister mainly because brittania had 14 children , they were all my grannys first cousins that in her younger days she new them all and she herself travelled with her mother , wells who were closely connected to the hughes , dorset wilts clans . .amos who married old thomas ayres daughter and the cruel sydnal wells who was quite wicked to his wife and daughter . ill say no more . .

  13. Hello Friend, can anyone rellate to brittania smith/ayres born 1866 to sam and ellen smith/ayres. ellen died young shortly after a serious accident with a train, her leg/s were crushed. she left small children who were seperated but fortunately for the girls they were almost together for some time with their g,parents. it seems much more is known of brittania than her sister mainly because brittania had 14 children , they were all my grannys first cousins that in her younger days she new them all and she herself travelled with her mother , wells who were closely connected to the hughes , dorset wilts clans . .amos who married old thomas ayres daughter and the cruel sydnal wells who was quite wicked to his wife and daughter . ill say no more . .

  14. Roberta Marion Painter says:

    Hello – my Grandmother, Caroline Cane (nee Rowland) was from a romany family – connections to Epsom/Sutton – she was one of six children, Henry, Andrew, Rueben, Mary Ann & Louisa. Her Father was Edward Rowland and Mother Matilda – buried at Epsom cemetery, Epsom Downs – would love to hear from anyone – kind regards Bobbie Painter nee Cane)

  15. Steve says:

    Hi
    My Great Grandparents were both romany: Emanuel (a.k.a.’Earlie’) and Alice Lee, who lived on Staveley Road and Napier Road near Ashford at the beginning of the last century. Alice’s maiden name was Cooper – I believe descended from ‘Windsor Coopers’ – and she may have also been related to John and Minnie Cooper (fair keepers on the 1911 Census) who lived on the same plot of land in Staveley road. She was born in Egham, probably in 1870 but seems to have acquired birth and baptism records of another Alice Cooper who was born in Egham in 1867, but who died in 1945: my Alice died in 1969 yet still managed to celebrate her hundredth birthday – and get a telegram from the Queen – in 1967!! This is all a complete mystery.
    Alice’s son Walter was married to Lilian Beach, of the Beaches Fair family (Lilian makes a fleeting appearance in the movie ‘Oliver’,
    operating a small carousel ride).
    If anyone has any photographs or other information connected with any of my family I would be really grateful.
    Kind regards,
    Steve

  16. Robin Norwood says:

    Hi All,

    I’m interested in any Gardner families who are Gypsy descendants. I believe my great grandfather was of Gypsy bloodline.

    The story is he rode a Hourse and cart from Reigate to London in the later 1800’s… his Horse collapsed and died on the way… he supposedly push his loaded cart the rest of the way.

    He settled in Islington and worked as a scrap dealer and had a fruit & veg stool at the Cally Market.

    Any help woul be appreciated.

    Thanks
    Rob

    1. Hayley says:

      Hi All,
      I’m interested in the Ayres and Gardner families. I’m trying to track my mother in law’s great grandmother Mary Ann Ayres/Gardner born abt. 1860 and her family. Mary Ann Gardner married Andrew Lowder 25th July 1885 in Dartford, Kent they had a son Walter Louder born 5th March 1904 at 36 Dryden Road, Croydon, Surrey, he is my mother in law’s grandfather, on his birth certificate it has father: Andrew Louder, mother: Mary Ann Louder formally Ayres, rank or profession of father: Hawker. On Andrew and Mary Ann’s marriage banns it has her father William Henry Gardner. Any information on Mary Ann Ayres/Gardner or her family would be much appreciated.

  17. Jan Pick says:

    Hi, I am trying to track a Joseph Deane who married Priscilla Morgan. She states she was born in Bray, Berkshire and he was from Silchester, Hampshire, but I can’t find a baptism. They married in 1820, and their daughter Susannah, baptised in Kingston, Surrey, married a Stephen Taylor (tinman) in 1846 in Berkshire. Their daughter, Elizabeth married Righteous Smith, then William White – who said his father was John Smith! They settled in Croydon eventually, but William says he was born around 1862 in Northampton. I have tracked numerous Smiths, Deanes and Morgans but can’t find any positive links! Can anyone help?

  18. Hi all my name is Clare
    I am new here and would like to say thanks for having me.
    I run A Victorian Carousel Hire in the United Kingdom.
    If your interested get in touch.

    Chat soon

  19. Tina w says:

    Afternoon everyone

    Two of my great uncles were born on Cobham Common, one in 1898 ‘in a tent on Cobham common’ (literally what was written on his birth certificate) and the other in 1905 ‘in a van, valley end cobham’. i was just wondering if Cobham common or valley end was part of a gypsy community then as i am trying to trace my family tree and i am having no luck at all. my great grandfather was called George William Fryer and my great grandmother Emily (lessimore, (maiden name)) between them they had 13 children between around 1890 onwards, with only 6 surviving into adulthood. My great uncle born in 1898 was also called george for his father and in 1905 my great uncle was called herbert. i can only find details on my great uncle george as he served in world war 1. it does look like they moved around somewhat as my great aunt born in 1901 was born in Oxfordshire. my great grandfather always seems to be put as a hawker on censuses and his immediate parents appeared to work the land. my great aunt appeared to have written a lot of names and dates but no specific years. might anyone be able to shed any light at all please? thank you.

  20. carol goodman says:

    i dont know but if gypsie but my search of my great grandmother brings me into surrey …. Sarah Lee whos mother was Mary Ann Lee or Lea …( shows as different spellings on records ) she was born around 1833 in Ewell Surrey and her father was Thomas Lee …if anyone has anything on these please let me know …

  21. T says:

    The gardener family changed there name to chambers in ww2 and they live in Kent and dartford if this helps anyone.

    1. Debra Durrant says:

      That’s really interesting. I have CHAMBERS and GARDENERSin my family. How did you find out abt the change of name?
      Do you have Chambers family? A lot of mine settled in Deptford. Alco GRANGERS and GIBBONS.Do you know any of these? They married SHEPHERD and LEE’s.
      Any help appreciated.
      Debra

  22. James Pocknee says:

    Hi, I’m not from the gypsy, romany and traveller community, however I am part of the Irish community in the UK due to my mum, maternal grandparents, great grandparents and all other generations are Irish born. Any of your gypsy, romany and traveller families in this area have Irish in them?

  23. Sarahjane Wickens says:

    Hi I’m trying to trace my fathers side my grandfather is Johnny lamb his wife was darkie lamb maiden name was doe they lived all over the country from all parts looking for pictures if anybody has any please many thanks

    1. TALDA SMITH says:

      Hi I’m Related to the lamb family,, was wondering if you are still interested in photographs of Johnny lamb and Darkie ino the family we’ll,,xx

  24. Malcolm Winch says:

    My Paternal.Grandmother was Amy Bridgland, born 1860 in Bletchingley. Her parents were Benjamin Bridgland and Rebecca Parsons. She was a Romany, or person of Romany heritage who died before I was born. I am anxious to know whether the name Parsons is can be Romany

    1. James Pocknee says:

      http://theromany.weebly.com/ Not on here and from research no, Parsons does not appear to be Romany.

  25. Tara sutherland says:

    My great granny was Amy Hoadley born in a wagon on Epsom downs her parents were Samson Hoadley and Matilda Parker they had a son Samson Hoadley married to Margret Mathews they lived in Horsell Surrey any info anybodys got would be great would love to know where Samson Hoadley 1st was born xxxx

    1. stanthevan says:

      Sampson Hoadley was born about 1845 in Leicestershire., was christened on 26 Dec 1853 in Leytonstone, and died between Oct 1906 and Dec 1906 in (Kingston 2A-252).Surrey.

      Noted events in his life were:

      • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
      • He worked as a Hawker in 1881 in Hawker.
      • He resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Head in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
      • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
      • He worked as a Licensed Hawker in 1881 in Hawker.
      • He resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Head in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.

      Sampson married Matilda Parker [MRIN: 71] on 2 Feb 1863 in Barking, Essex, United Kingdom.

      Children from this marriage were:

      2 i. Andrew Hoadley Junr
      ii. Horace Hoadley was born on 3 Sep 1875 in Tunbridge, Kent. and died J/A/S 1955 in Surrey aged 80.
      iii. Matilda Hoadley was born on 5 Nov 1882 in Woking Surrey and died in Mar 1976 in Surrey Northern, Surrey, England aged 93.
      iv. Henry Hoadley was born on 10 Jan 1883 in Esher, Surrey, England, died on 10 Nov 1940 in The Morning Star Pub, Swanscombe aged 57, and was buried on 16 Nov 1940 in Swanscombe, Kent, England.
      v. Amy Hoadley was born in 1886 in Epsom, Surrey and died on 26 Sep 1962 in SHEPPERTON Middlesex England aged 76.
      vi. Job Hoadley The cause of his death was Y.

      5. Matilda Parker, daughter of Mark Parker and Sarah Wilson, was born on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon, England, United Kingdom and died on 23 Oct 1919 in Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England aged 74. The cause of her death was Y. Other names for Matilda were Matilda Hoadley and Matilda Hoadley.

      Noted events in her life were:

      • She was baptised on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon Surrey.
      • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the wife of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
      • She resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Wife in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.
      • She was baptised on 12 Jan 1845 in Worplesdon Surrey.
      • Census UK 1881: was age 29 and the wife of the head of the household, on 3 Apr 1881, in Cheam, Epsom, Surrey, England.
      • She resided at Age: 56Relation to Head of House: Wife in 1901 in Woking, Surrey, England.

      Matilda married Sampson Hoadley [MRIN: 71] on 2 Feb 1863 in Barking, Essex, United Kingdom.

  26. Colin Coomber says:

    I am interested in any links to the Chilcott and Chapman families who appear to have lived on Epsom Common from at least the early to mid 1800s. My line moved into a house in Epsom by 1871. Is Chilcott still a prominent Romani name?

    1. Barry Searle says:

      Hi Colin
      Chilcott is not a name I know. Chapman are plenty in Surrey. Redhill, Outwood, Areas.
      Redhill cemetery.
      Jimmy, Kalb, George, Joe, Fred all close to Redhill area.
      Good luck
      Barry

      1. Colin Coomber says:

        Thanks Barry,
        Hopefully someone else may know something. I am told the Chilcott name was strong in Romany communities in Somerset and Essex but have no proof that the family I seek came from either of those places. They seem to have lived alongside the Chapmans in Epsom Common and John Chapman and Lucy Chilcott appear to have been common law partners (or perhaps married under Romany rituals) as I can find no marriage. Some of their children were baptised in the local church though.
        regards Colin

  27. Edwin says:

    Any connections to Ayres/Burgess/Larby/Othen/Pharo families from Farnham Surrey that intermarried ?

    1. David Vinden says:

      My grandad is ginger Stan Ayres / Vinden

  28. Barry Searle says:

    Anyone know Barry Searle ? Surrey, Sussex, Kent areas. Origin from Searle Family Showman. Outwood, Westerham, Edenbridge, Cambridge, Associates Bonza,Jasper smith families, Chapmans,Jones, Greens, 1960 – 2019. Good luck to all in finding your contacts. In the old days it was by word of mouth, at a funeral, or Derby day places. Good days. All take care with this Corona virus. Good luck. Barry

  29. Rachel simpson says:

    Hi I am looking for any information regarding my grandfather Frederick Basil Ayres
    He lived in Reigate Surrey in the 1930s and met my grandmother there she was called Marion hall. They never married but had a son in September 1930 , my father called Michael who was put in an orphanage.
    His father was also Frederick Ayres and was married to Ellen Ayres from Farcotton Northamptonshire.
    I know my great grandfather was a Baker.
    Any information would be wonderful

  30. Patricia Gilbert née Todman says:

    My grandmother, Elizabeth Ann Grainger , born 1872 in chobam Surrey. Her father was Stephen Graimger born 1835 in Frimley, Surrey who married Elizabeth Ann Reed , (born 1832 in IOW ) in 1854. They were a Romany family moving several times in Hampshire and Surrey. Grandmother settled in Windlesham Surrey married to Walter Todman. The Grainger relatives at one time were involved in a fair, one was a horse trader. I know at the end of a season they met together in Windlesham to share any income. Does anyone have any information on the fair?

    1. Debra Durrant says:

      H Patricia.
      I have Graingers also. I’d be interested to chat… Are you on Ancestry? Or facebook?
      Debra

  31. Debra Durrant says:

    Does anyone know if HAM ROAD and WATERFIELD ROAD were Gypsy sites? Thanks

  32. Olivia carpenter says:

    Hi I am looking into my past and wondering if anyone knows about the caravan site Middleton carshalton surrey in 1970s. My dad was Frankie Johnson born 1971 and his parents were John Johnson and Brenda Johnson (maiden name Riley) they gave there address as this caravan site for a few years

  33. Ann Smith says:

    Hi, I’m looking to find the Raggett family line, my mum was born out of wedlock to Emily Raggett, she was listed as a hawker in 1922 when she gave birth to my mum in little Hampton Worthing, Emily later married a non traveller and settled for which I have good history, but would love to find more history on Emily’s family and if that line still exist as travellers, my mum Louisa was proud of her Roma history but she was given up as a baby as far as I can tell, so the history is not there.

  34. Susan Hatcher says:

    My Grandfather was Walter Richard Bonner he always said his family were Chobman commoners where they gipys or people who worked the land.
    When he died the birth certificate said he was born in Pyrford.

  35. Henry Lee says:

    Always been interested in my family history Lee, where we were travelers working with Horses our last known settlement was in Ockham. We settled in Cobham in 1820 and set up a blacksmiths and wheelwrights servicing the London to Portsmouth postal route.
    My oldest known relatives are Richard Lee (1735-1810) married to Mary Lee (1726-1810)
    I have a long list of Lee members the most prolific being Richard Lee 1812 who married Jane Pearson 1814, they were busy having 16 children!
    Thomas 1832
    Emily 1834
    Henry 1836
    Ann 1836
    Jane 1839
    Fanny 1841
    George 1843
    Frederick 1845 died on Avalanche ship disaster
    William 1846
    Richard 1849 my great great grandfather
    Esther 1851
    Charles 1852
    Walter 1854
    Louisa Mary 1856
    Harvey 1857
    Arthur 1860
    I would like to know any other Lee families linked to ours and what our roots are.

  36. Donna price says:

    Hi anybody know anything aboat Charlie and Jessie foster . Jessie was a cellars before she got married they had 3 children Nora ruby and Charlie ruby was my granny I know they was from Watford and are buried there

  37. Joy Cooper-Watson says:

    Does anyone know anything about William Henry Chapman, born 1874 in Pinner Middx, died 1952 in Watford.
    In 1882 his address was In a caravan, Sipson Green, Middx
    In 1901 his address was White B***Field, Heston, Middx
    In 1911 his address was 104 Fair Ground, Bedford Lane, Feltham, Middx – Travellers Van
    Or anything about the addresses?
    I am looking for information for a friend who knows nothing of her background
    thanks

  38. Sarah says:

    Hi, does anyone know Karen and Ella Ayres who lived in Ashford, Middlesex in the 1970s. I was at school with them and would love to say hi.

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